Humans have rights, whether refugee or migrant
The controversy over the arrival of 490 Tamils in B.C. aboard the MV Sun Sea seems to centre around how we view them in our mind’s eye. Are they refugees, or illegal migrants? Are they honest people trying to escape oppression, or well-to-do migrants paying large sums of money to get around our immigration policies?
Canada’s political machines have shifted into high gear, using targeted language to frame the Tamils in a way that serves their political agendas. Tellingly, the Harper government placed Public Safety Minister Vic Toews into the spotlight to push a get-tough message and ‘turn the channel’ from other sensitive issues like the census. Immigration Minister Jason Kenney is nowhere to be seen in this debate.
Minister Toews has repeatedly used the words “criminals” and “terrorists” when describing the Tamils, and stated that many have paid up to $50,000 to come to Canada – without presenting any evidence to back up his claims.
Clearly, the federal government wants us to think of the Tamils as undeserving of Canada’s generosity, by framing the refugee applicants as queue jumpers and potential security threats. Their gamble is that fear is a more potent force than hope.
What is being lost in this national screaming match that passes for debate, is that human beings have rights, whether we frame them as refugees or migrants. The fact is they have arrived, are claiming refugee status, and will have to prove their case if they hope to stay in Canada.
In 1969, Canada signed the UN Convention on Refugees and undertook not to return refugees if they had a valid fear of persecution. We have a rigorous review process in place to screen refugee claimants. This group of Tamils represents less than 1.5 per cent of the estimated 30,000 refugee claimants who come to Canada each year.
The time has come for Canadians, and especially our federal government, to ramp down the rhetoric and let the legal process run its course. In Canada, human rights are valued, and should always take precedence over political expediency.












human rights and bcgeu gross negligence
I was a member of the bcgeu courtesy of the BC LDB and was fired while on disability under the "Any Occupation Plan" decided by the CRC Decision. Great West life and the PSA did not like the decision of the CRC so they decided to fire me because they did not want to pay my insurance claim. The union did not take my grievance to arbitration. Appendix 4 of the Master Agreement was designed to protect the members of bcgeu in the event that they should ever need the insurance protection. Armed with legal contractual agreements between the Employer and the Union on behalf of the Employees, the union chose to ignore the contract they negotiated on behalf of the members and abandoned my grievance. On behalf of my union sisters and brothers, I felt pressured to file a complaint with the BCHuman Rights Commission and the LRB to recognize our rights under the Constitution and to protect them from corruption within the union.
All equal and same! in the eyes of Natives of this land.
All the above anonymous writers or their parents or may be their grand / great-grand parents were once like the 400 Tamils @-BC is a fact that they forget, just like we all came through different colored-wombs but to the same world. I was born here but my grand parents came like those 400 Tamils in a boat, but from a different country. That’s the major difference!
So during school days, I used to claim superiority, and smartly argue with other friends as if I am one of those TRUE Canadians since I was born here. But when I grew up and became a teacher working in a college in (NWT) Iqaluit, I was looked down by the Natives (Native Indians) of Canada, as an Immigrant because they claimed that they are the True Canadians who own this land. Mind you, many of those True Canadians have never come to Toronto.
So finally, the bottom line is "who is a true Canadian is a comparative term" which Iqaluit taught me, and since then I felt sorry for self-claiming superiority over those (classmates) Canadian citizens who were once refugees. So let us think we are "all equal and same" in the eyes of the Natives of this land. Let us live and let others also live peacefully. Thanks to Canada! Love all!!
S.P
take care of our own
how many hard working Canadians have adequate basic living expenses covered!!!! Proper medical and dental???, food and housing, ??? hogwash, our government doesn't even take care of its people at home and yet, now we have the expense of helping out more refugee claimants.
Look around, how many citizens live below the poverty line here, for no fault of their own, due to lack of resources and good paying jobs, --thousands.
Yes canada is a great country, with freedoms others do not have, but at what price--- higher taxes. Working your whole life and in the elderly years, recieving nothing back, barely making ends meat.
The plight of Immigrants in Canada
All Human beings have rights and deserve to be respected, whether they are applying to come to Canada, walking off an airplane into Immigration Canada and applying for refugee status, or a tourist visiting, or child born here.
However, Immigration Canada can not account for thousands of people who have come to Canada and then claimed refugee status. Where did they go?
Poor and suffering, oppressed people are not new to Canada indeed.
My mother came to Canada after leaving depression Ireland to work in a sweatshop factory in England saved her money and then put herself through nursing school (both parents had died by the time she was 15). She saved her money to come to Canada legally, and came by boat after a long wait. She had to wait until age 35 to have children, not by choice but by circumstance-There were no special services, no assistance, no counselling. My father's father left my grandmother alone to raise three boys. There was poverty and hard work and suffering for both parents-but no help. In fact, both lived through the great depression and had sibling infants die.
I say common sense and accountability for all new comers is very important. The services for seniors in this country need to be improved greatly. If we are going to speak of human rights, compassion or fairness then we must examine our priorities with common sense, equity and fairness.
Our refugee policies are generous-Canada is a generous country and donates millions upon millions of tax dollars in foreign aid. Canadians themselves, send money to people in need all over the world-often their family members in poor countries. But poverty and unemployment for Canadians is still a major problem and our treatment and respect of the men and women who have worked in Canada-their whole lives- must also be taken into consideration.
I had to move my mother back to small town Ontario to afford quality retirement living with nursing care. Her living conditions in a Vancouver nursing care facility were apauling!! It was right out of Stephen King novel. BC's dirty secret!! My mother was moved to this facility (like so many others here in this city) in a digusting manner by BC's hospital triage service-that gave us no choices!!Her health was bad at the time and we could not afford to keep up her apartment and had to pay the substandard nursing facility $1100./month. She was in a room with three other women and was not allowed to use the bathroom as she had contracted C-difficile in a Vancouver Hospital after surgery for a broken wrist. All the residents were kept in wheel chairs and fed hydromorphone. My mother was in her 70's and her mind was good. But there was no physiotherapy and no one had faith she would walk again-As family , we were "TOLD" what to think about her illness, her prognosis etc. I paid for physiotherapy privately myself! I am not a home owner or a rich woman.
To afford a retirement home with nursing care and her own room would cost us $6000.00 per month in Vancouver and there were 6 months to two year waitlists for those facilities.
My father worked 40 years in a factory and farmed this land. His grandfather farmed this land. My mother worked her entire life-Where is the justice? Their house was sold after my father died and the market price was $100000. in rural Ontario. The estate was less than $200,000. My mother has been living in a facility in Ontario that costs her $3000/month. for 4 years in total. (very good price for a decent place to live). Her pension is only $1700./month. She is 80 years old. What happen's when her money runs out?
Canada is ignoring the needs of its citizens. While we should not demonize the Tamil refugees for their circumstances, the outrage speaks to a lack of compassion and fairness to those people suffering at home. The political needs for more "tax generating citizens", justifies supplying millions upon millions in language and welfare services for refugees and newcomers and their families (including seniors). But no one looks at the state of care and support services for seniors. In fact, its swept under the rug. Meanwhile wealthy speculators from other countries buy up property and our resources. This drives the cost of housing.
If you plan to get old-you better be rich here in BC, or Canada for that matter-because no one will be outraged at your situation. Charity needs to begin at home.
Thank you for presenting
Thank you for presenting another perspective. I find it dishonest and distressing that the government manipulates facts and news bytes to appeal to people's fears. Yes, procedures must be followed to investigate refugee claims, and such procedures are in place for such a situation as this. The percentage of refugees represented by this event is so small, yet is being blown out of proportion for political purposes.
Visible minority women are
Visible minority women are better off in the west. (See article below).
In Canada, we are told we are all equal and while things are improving for the lives of many visible minorities, new to this country only one generation ago-things are not improving for many of those of those immigrants and their children who came to Canada without support or a voice two to three generations ago. Their parents also faced discrimination, while they were expected to pay "their dues" without making a complaint-in fact their children continue to pay for it. To speak about it or draw attention to it often results in unfair accusations of bigotry or racism. It seems so "outside the box" because we have been taught to think particular ways about discrimination and the realities of race politics, without examining what modern racism is really about in Canada-indeed many people can not articulate their perspective well, because their histories, pain and shame has no voice-it has never had a voice because racism, human rights discrimination was never addressed by the media or politicians in our grandparents or parents day. To be a majority "white person" meant you had it good-you had power. In fact, that is not true for most of the immigrants who came to this country two, three and four generations ago.
If I can make a measure or a valid demonstration for this unspoken truth than look no further than the downtown east side. There are two predominantly "main" populations of people living in squalor, mental illness and addiction in the downtown east side-(our poorest, sickest and most destitute in BC) First Nations people and people of euro/anglo backgrounds. If we look at the care for our seniors in BC -ie. availability of decent affordable nursing care and retirement facilities, with appropriate, culturally sensitive staff- we see how those who worked hard all their lives without asking for anything, or making a complaint are being treated poorly and not recognized today. Who's advocating for their rights in a sensationalized, national debate?
This my last post on this subject, but I hope that the NDP and the BCGEU consider the various realities of the people of BC in up-coming plat forms.
http://www.straight.com/article-332604/vancouver/canada-visible-minorities-better-west
Response
Thank you, I appreciate your response.
Yes, propaganda is alive and well. However, the bigger issues are not addressed when we "focus" on rhetoric and countering rhetoric ( a bit of a sideshow) and not comment on the real issues, the facts. The Tamil refugees are being treated fairly and well-they are in good hands in BC, irregardless of what is being bantered about.
Canada "invests" a great deal in all newcomers. This is a good thing. Canada supports the needs financially of the poor and oppressed in third world countries and this is a good thing too. However Canada has not always done this and the immigrants and naturally born citizens of the past are getting older and being ignored. These are the majority of people who have paid taxes with little personal benefit over the last century, even the last 30 or 40 years.
Healthcare, seniors care, education grants for the unemployed , affordable housing are also big issues in BC and in Canada. Canada has a "stellar" modern record in protecting human rights of all people especially newcomers and refugees. We are light years ahead of most countries in terms of how we treat visible minorities, new immigrants and people of different faiths and lifestyles. Yet, while we are sensitive to the plight of "the new minority", we are overlooking the state of of the previous minority and the soon to be again, new "minority".
For example, last month on the CBC I watched a program on the earning levels of white women and visible minority women in Canada. In Ontario, there is still a difference of 3% earning disparity between visible minorities and white/euro anglo women. White women earn on average 3% more than visible minorities, the vast majority are newcomers over the last 30 years. In British Columbia, the situation is different. Visible minority women earn 14% more than women of white or anglo/european heritage. Indeed we have done a very good job in protecting the rights and privliges of the vast majority of newcomers to Canada and their children over the last 30 years.
Women are the care takers of children and the elderly. Our modern culture has ignored the needs of Canadian women who's parents and grand parents came alone from Europe and lived as nuclear families in the 50's, 60's 70 and 80's. Indeed many newcomers of my parents generation came alone and could not sponsor or afford to bring other family members. Many went a life time or a generation before returning to "the motherland" if at all. My father's father came as a poor child, one of the Dr. Bernardo's Home children who like so many, were terribly mistreated and used as slave labor on farms in the east coast of Canada. He could never live a stable life as an adult.
Why are we debating about apples and the "quality" of the language (rhetoric) to describe them when the oranges are being ignored and rotting whether we find it palatable to discuss or not.
The Conservative government is guilty of manipulating the rhetoric of this situation, but I suspect the Tamil refugees will be treated fairly and most will be integrated into our culture without incident. At the same time, the opposition parties jump on the " political positioning band wagon" and continue to ignore deeper unspoken truths.
Equal Rights
Yes, Anonymous, some white Canadians may have also arrived here by boat but most, like my Hungarian parents, arrived here as legitimate refugees; in their case, fleeing an invading Russian army which brutally repressed and killed citizens after they where kicked out of Hungary by them.
My father, who was an electrical engineer in Hungary, barely survived his escape from there with my mother, seeing many friends and relatives disappear or die horribly during the invasion. When they arrived in Canada, my parents expected nothing, and received nothing from the Canadian people. In fact, my father would go door to door asking if anyone needed yard work, painting, etc. just to make some money so he could support myself, my brother and my sister who were born shortly after their arrival to Canada.
The Tamil refugees on the other hand have attempted to sneak into Canada illegally using fake passports or no (destroyed) passports at all, mocking our laws, showing criminal intention and leaving their true intentions in question. As a result of their actions, Canadians will now have to take care of them at our expense while other perhaps well-educated and trained refugee claimants from other countries suffer and wait in line for years in the hope of being accepted by Canada legally so they may become hard-working, law-abiding citizens.
Think about this before you jump on the bleeding-heart "let them all in - we're all equal" left-wing bandwagon. Everyone should be treated equal in Canada, but only if they choose to follow our laws like true Canadians do. Nobody should be given special rights that others did not have in this country, especially if they're not even a Canadian citizen yet and choose to ignore our laws at the expense of all Canadians and other honest refugee claimants.
Queue jumping argument doesn't hold up
With respect, your comment about 'sneaking into Canada illegally' is simply wrong. First, there is nothing illegal about coming to Canada and claiming refugee status. In signing the UN Convention on Refugees, we agreed to a legal process to accept refugee claimants. As Darryl mentions, some 30,000 arrive here every year.
Second, there is no evidence the Tamils are using faked documentation or destroyed passports. On the contrary, to gain refugee status, they need to verify their identities and prove they are legitimate refugees.
Third, true refugees are forced to 'sneak' out of their home countries, because their governments would persecute, imprison or kill them if they knew they were trying to flee. Plus, it's pretty hard to 'sneak' anywhere, on a large ship with hundreds of people aboard.
Your family certainly sounds like legitimate refugee claimants, and they were rightly welcomed into Canada. The UN Convention makes Canada responsibile for providing basic services to refugee claimaints, to ensure they are given a fair hearing and are treated humanely.
As one of the richest countries in the world, whose businesses and consumers benefit from the labour and natural resources of developing countries, it is the least we can do, to welcome legitimate refugees who face persecution at home.
Rights
Great work - it's good to see our union supporting the basic rights of these people.
human rights
I found this article to be a solid counter balance to some of the alarming xenophobic rhetoric out there:
http://www.vancouversun.com/news/should+welcome+boatful+Tamil+refugees+into+Canada/3398770/story.html
and: those who are responding so negatively to this issue might want to think about the fact that the ancestors of many white Canadians also arrived here by boat, and perhaps gain some sense of the rather brutal irony involved in our colonial nation's border and immigration / refugee policies.
I'm very glad to see a BCGEU posting in support of the refugees - thank you!
It's an old story
Thanks Darryl and the BCGEU - for publishing a thoughtful and balanced view and for holding the Harper government to account, for their part in revving up the fear factor.
Our BCGEU VP today distributed another good article on the topic - well worth forwarding to friends and family that are lost in their fear and negativity around how to handle newcomers to Canada - however and whenever they got here:
http://www.nationalpost.com/todays-paper/soon+forget/3411881/story.html#ixzz0wy4APxkK
Rights
If Humans have rights, whether refugee or migrant, does that mean that Disabled workers and Military Veterans are not Human as they have no Rights according to the Canadian Government and its provincial counter parts.
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